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on the wealthy. you guys are willing to go off the fiscal cliff? >> it republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a the a time when the american economy was doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> while geithner was drawing a line in the sand, house speaker john boehner was busy trying to lift his jaw off the flar after geithner presented the president's debt reduction plans to him last week. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i have just never seen anything like it. >> yes, indeed, it seems that republicans are not quite sure what to make of the president taking a harder line across the bargaining table. >> you know, the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> i think we're going over the cliff. it's pretty clear to me they made a political calculation. the president's plan is just, quite frankly, a joke. >> i'm not sure about that, senator graham, but there will be plenty of time for jokes later this evening with every member of cong
republicans pitch their plan to avoid the fiscal cliff and like the president's plan they don't expect to win over the opposition. a sfl senate fight. will republicans reject a personal plea from their former leader bob dole. he's making a rare visit to the senate floor to make his case. and now that we've had a whole month to digest that election day data, where you'll find those who voted for every presidential winner since 1956. that's in today's deep dive. i'm chuck todd feeling a little clogged up as you might hear. the fiscal cliff counteroffer has one thing in common. the differences between the new republican plan and what the white house proposed are stark when it comes to taxes. the gop calls for $800 million in new taxes. it's half of what the white house asked for. republicans to $67 billion. the gop plan changes how security benefits would be calculated. why he favors tax rates instead of eliminating deductions. not enough revenue. less revenue equals more cuts in education. republicans ruled that out saying the new revenue would not be achieved through higher tax rates which we
brown. we begin with negotiations to avert the so-called fiscal cliff both republicans and white house hold their lines and no formal talks yesterday. president obama said he wasn't ruling out some reductions in entitlement programs such as medicare and social security, meanwhile house speaker john boehner has to win over hard liners in his own party. susan mcginnis is following it all. >> reporter: hi. good morning. there are some glimmers of common ground here among the two sides that could form the basis of a deal. the president is now talking about actually lowering the tax rate for the top 2% not now but later. and republicans are now taking some heat over their latest plan a lot of it from within their own party. >> five, four -- >> reporter: house speaker john boehner led the countdown to the lighting of the capitol hill christmas tree last night. >> one. >> reporter: but a different countdown weighs on the minds of these lawmakers, the countdown to the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts due to kick in at the end the year. >> god bless us, everyone. >> rep
>>> tomorrow on the show, two of the men at the center of the fiscal cliff negotiations. republican representative tom cole of oklahoma and the man behind the anti-tax pledge, grover norquist. they'll both be "outfront." the new film called "zero dark 30" sparking controversy. it's based on that raid that killed osama bin laden and some charge the obama administration gave the film's producer certain access. barbara starr will be with us about that. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. >>> we begin with breaking news. new signs tonight the syrian government could be preparing to do the unthinkable, unleash chemical weapons on its own people. the united states has new intelligence suggesting syrian forces now mixing the ingredients used to make deadly serin gas. a serious civil war has progressed. the obama administration has repeatedly warned even just moving chemical weapons would be a red line that could draw a swift response. just hours ago, president obama directly addressing the assad regime about this latest intelligence. >> today, i want to make it absolutely clear to
the fiscal cliff. now, the republican plan purports to cut $1.3 trillion and raise $800 billion in new revenues. it did contain four specifics. four. cut medicare specific number one. $600 billion. cut medicaid, pays for nursing homes for seniors, of course. priority number two. three, cut the adequate cola for seniors on social security. even though 40% of seniors depend principally or totally upon social security and the cola already underestimated inflation particularly for medicare, essentials they need. cut that. not a driver of the deficit but, hey, cut that. one more specific. preserve the bush-era tax rates for income over $250,000. it's not a tax increase for everybody who earns over $250,000. it's only the income over $250,000 that would get additional taxes if the bush-era rates went away and the president's proposal was passed. but, no, they want to preserve -- totally preserve tax cuts for income over $250,000. they want to preserve the reduced capital gains rate and dividends rate which principally who ben pets, who else, millionaires and billionaires. now -- benefits, wh
to cut. it was not a serious proposal. >> the president may have the upper hand because the fiscal cliff tops allow him to back the opposition into a corner by framing this as republicans raising taxes. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see theiincome taxes automatically go up on january 1st. that is sort of like a lump of coal you get for christmas. >> congressional democrats operating like they don't have to compromise on spending or taxes. >> elections have consequences. the president campaigned, made it very clear. made very clear that he was supporting ta cuts for the middle-class, that he wanted the expiration of the tax cuts for the high end. >> very little progress among the inside player so far, the president plans to keep pressuring republicans from the outside. meeting with the nation's governors on tuesday and then addressing the business roundtable on wednesday. lou: thank you. ed henry, fox news chief white house correspondent. joining me now, a pulitzer prize-winning journalist, campaign strategists, former reagan political director of, veteraran de
counterproposal on avoiding that fiscal cliff. the republican plan totals $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. now, the part that stood out to us was the $600 billion in proposed savings in medicare reforms in part by raising he will he wieligibility from 65 t. dn pfeifer says it provides to details on which deductions they would eliminate, which loopholes they will chose, or which medicare savings they would would achieve. jason is the chief political correspondent at politics 365 and john bray bend ser a republican political consul can't and former senior strategist. welcome to you both. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> so i keep wondering, you know, why are the two parties negotiating in public? wouldn't it be better if they negotiated behind closed doors, jason? >> they're not going to negotiate behind closed doors because nothing gets done. what you see right now with the republican proposal on monday, it was similar to what the democrats were offering in 2010. and john boehner is under a tremendous amount of pressure to look tough. they want to beat their chests and say we
the fiscal cliff is looming. today republican house leaders made moves to quiet some of the most conservative voices of dissent within their own party. two hard-lying tea party conservatives were removed from the house budget committee where elements of a fiscal cliff deal are to be considered. meanwhile president obama held his ground insigs on higher tax rates for the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. >>> the political wrangling but a damper on wall street as stocks finished slightly lower in a light strad trading day. the dow jones industrial lost 13, the nasdaq shed 5. shares in oakland-based pandora are plum etting after hours. the internet radio company posted better-than-expected quarterly results but lowered its outlook for the rest of the fiscal year. the company is facing stiffer competition from the likes of apple and microsoft. both companies are launching their own music service. pandora shares dropped 17% after the closing bell. >>> now, numbers and new numbers show home sales in california remain steady, a sign of the recovering housing market, but as john reports, in one bay
-- [inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard line on those making 250 and above. >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting on the table are going to come from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. [inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of the situation that our country faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we've got to solve the problem, and we will. >> the house is going to
republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard above. -- how long can you afford politically to have those tax cuts? >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting -- of the revenues we are putting from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >>\[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the eye can see. $16 trillion of debt on the books. every man, woman and child owing the american government $50,000 and that number is increasing every single year. as a result, our members understand that we've got to solve the problem, and we will. >> the house is going to leave today with two days le
're going to have a look at republicans and the fiscal cliff negotiations with radio talk-show host and columnist armstong williams. that is coming up next as we continue the "washington journal." ♪ >> why a writers institute? i think it is very important within the culture. we are a culture of words, of voices. words are key to our imagination, our capacity to envision things. we ourselves are not completely tied to print on the page. but i think that there is no other art form so readily accessible other than perhaps -- but it is something -- there is something in literature that captures the humans. . >> this weekend, we look behind the scenes at the history and literary life of new york's capital city, albany, on c-span to and it c-span3. span3.c- [bell rings] >> this weekend on c-span3, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to hiroshima. >> everybody has their own view of what happened. survivalant to argue or about the history. i think we are past that. my goal for behing here is to honor the dead nand listen to the living and do what i can to ensure this does not happen aga
, more about the fiscal cliff with republican representative tom cole from oklahoma. then the head of fema testifies on capitol hill about the government's response to hurricane sandy. and later, senate debate on the u.n. treaty for the disabled. ♪ ♪ >> this weekend on c-span3's american history tv, follow harry truman easeleddest grandson to hiroshima as the city prepared to mark the bombing of the city in 1945. >> you know, everybody has their own view what happened, and i, i don't, i don't want to argue survival with anyone in japan about the history. i think we're past that. my whole purpose for being here is to listen, to honor the dead, to listen to the living and to see -- to do what i can to see this doesn't happen again. >> clifton truman daniel will join us sunday at 9 p.m. eastern on c-span3. >> now, a discussion of how the military and national security might be affected by spending cuts scheduled to take effect the first of the year. part of the so-called fiscal cliff. former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, admiral mike mullen, was joined by the chairmen of
love "the washington post" headline. republicans losing blame game on fiscal cliff. neener. majority of americans say if the country goes over the cliff on december 31st, congressional republicans should bear the brunt of the blame. "washington post" pew poll -- >> pew pew. >> stephanie: latest time the g.o.p. faces a tireless task between now and the end of the year. 53% say the g.o.p. would and should lose the fiscal cliff blame game. 27% say the president. so there. [ ♪ nah nah nah nah nah ♪ ] >> stephanie: a tee and then a hee. donna says i got my tickets. steph, as your official vegetarian travel agent i got meet and grope tickets. so did many of our stephanie and the mooks meet up group. >> i love that. >> stephanie: not that kind of meet. we're having a celebration dinner this sunday to celebrate getting meet and grope tickets to what -- >> it's a new year and time for a new inauguration. >> the president of the united states is once again barack obama. s. ♪ >> time for a new sexy lib
for democrats. caller: we would not be having a fiscal cliff if we did not lead the tea party republicans slip in under the radar in 2010. in 2014 we are going to sweep them out of there. host: what do the tea party people have to do with the fiscal cliff? caller: we would not have if this -- we would have a fiscal cliff if not for the tea party republicans. the republicans will never agree with obama. they will never do it. they are undercover klansmen. they go up to washington and have been causing us trouble ever since. we're going to take our brains to the polls next time. host: from pennsylvania on the line for republicans. caller: a couple of points. one has to do with president obama saying we must have a balanced approach. the second one has to do with the term mandate. the third has to do with what the congress is. president obama says we must have a balanced approach to this. when i look at the term balance, i think, ok. the have revenue increases. you must also have at the same time expenditure decreases. i hear nothing but let's increase revenue, i hear nothing about decrease in ex
cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nation's debt ceiling. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default again as part of a budget negotiioion, i will not play that game. >> republicans held their meeting with small business owners and denied they are trying to punt until next year. >> i'll be here. i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving the problem. >> they noted the president has not scheduled any meetings with g.o.p. leaders in weeks and not offered a counterproposal to boehner's plan from last week. >> frankly, it was the balanced approach the president's been asking for. we need a response from the white house. >> reporter: the president continues to envies the only impediment to the deal
on with this fiscal cliff. it's time to pay. it's not the republican party's fault. obama has been in office four years. he has doubled to the trillions of dollars in debt. host: are you a tea party supporter? caller: i'm not affiliated with the tea party, but i am tired of hearing them blame it, because i see the hard-working generation that are in their 60s that paid in and they are saying enough is enough, we are tired of you taking it out of our wallets. we are tired of crazy liberal laws being shoved down our throats. our rights are being taken away from us day after day and we are like zombies in this country. host: sumter, south carolina, william, a democrat. we're listening to your thoughts this morning on open phones. caller: i am a new listener and a veteran. i am trying to figure out what's going on. when people see that the fiscal cliff and all this other stuff i am trying to understand, how it came about, it was from all the money being spent on war. and i wanted to mention about the veterans. we are the backbone of this country in a sense. that's what they need to focus on more. hos
cliff and the talks are at a stand still for president obama portrage republicans scrooges and the republicans are waiting for a serious proposal. pat buchanan wants the gop to stand firm with no new taxings. >> ditching the business tax for a national sales tax. it is spurring growth and putting people to work there. wayne would it work here? >> it is a sad day to think that we have to do something the communist china is doing . it worked very well and they have expand today to other provinces in china and it is working very, very well. yes. >> national sales tax does that work here, johnathon? >> it would. it is it fair and treats everyonely and easy to understand and more importantly taxes consumption and not production. the only thing i like about communist china is the chicken but the corporate next tax must go and think of how much more wealth and jobs we would have if it add more to the profits every year. >> julian, what do you make of >> the reason a national sales tax is good it is harder to cheat on and the reason it is it bad. economy growing at 2.4 percent. it
compromise with their latest counter offer on the fiscal cliff. not as many spending cuts as they originally wanted and slight entitlement reform. the white house has just reject this offer out of hand and once again it solely is because it doesn't raise tax rates on the rich. when is obama going to rise above that obsession? when will he lose that over rich people and tax rates? i don't know. tonight, i'm is going to try to call his bluff. anyway, also breaking tonight, potential catastrophe if syria uses its chemical weapons. president obama issues a stern warning to syria and i quote the world is watching. and there will be consequences if syria uses these wmds. have we just committed ourselves to another war? and the gun control debate is squarely back in the spotlight tonight after the murder/suicide by nfl player in kansas city, second amendment instead of blaming the sick people who use them. republicans have responded to a fiscal cliff counter offer to president obama. eamon javers joins us now from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. leapt me wa
to speak to republicans last night at the reception here about the fiscal cliff? >> i won't read out conversations. the president and first lady met with scores and scores of lawmakers last night as is the norm in a situation like this, but i'm not going to read out individual conversations. >> [inaudible] >> i've seen a report that speaker boehner was not part of the receiving line, but the president has conversations with speaker boehner with some regularity and looks forward to speaking with him again. >> last question then. both sides have given their proposal. you said what you need to see from the republican side. what, in terms of process now, is the next step? >> well, conversations continue between our team and lawmakers and their teams. the president will have conversations as well. i don't have any to preview to you or read out to you, and the conversations will encompass not just leaders of congress, but business leaders and civic leaders and governors and others who have a stake in the process and the outcome of the negotiations, but as secretary geithner said over the w
cliff? >> if republicans are not willing to let rates go back up, and we think they should go back to the clinton levels, a time when the american economy is doing exceptionally well, then there will not be an agreement. >> but house speaker john bigger is digging in himself, admitting talks are going nowhere. speaker boehner also described the moment when secretary geithner first showed him the president's opening offer. >> i was just flabbergasted. i looked at him and said, "you can't be serious." i've just never seen anything like it. you know, we've got seven weeks between election day and the end of the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. right now i would say we're nowhere, period. we're nowhere. we've put a serious offer on the table by putting revenues up there to try to get this question resolved. but the white house has responded with virtually nothing. they've actually asked for more revenue than they've been asking for the whole entire time. >> what are the chances we're going to go over the cliff? >> there's clearly a chance. >> lindsey
that reputation, well, it would be now. house republicans today did offer a counter proposal on the fiscal cliff. their plan, $2.2 trillion deficit savings over the next decade, but it does not include higher tax rates for the wealthy. the house speaker john boehner calls it a credible plan that deserves serious consideration by the white house. guess what? the white house released a statement tonight saying the plan is nothing new, that it lowers rates for the wealthy and sticks the middle class with the bill. so to borrow a phrase, we're nowhere. period. david walker is president and ceo of comeback america initiative. he's made it his mission to promote fiscal responsibility. he joins us along with cnn political analyst, david gergen. david walker, let me start with you. the house republicans put forward their counter proposal. speaker boehner says it's credible and the white house should consider it. is it credible or is it more of what you have called the irresponsible unethical immoral behavior of all the politicians here in washington? >> i think both sides are now putting things on the t
to washington and get things done can't seem to make any progress at all on the looming fiscal cliff. instead, what we have is a game of finger pointing, both democrats and republicans, what else, blaming each other for the lack of a deal. now, keep in mind time is of the essence here. automatic tax hikes and spending cuts will go into effect in just four weeks if your members of congress can't come together and do a deal. on paper, it shouldn't be too hard. it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works
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the fiscal cliff. this included chris van hollen. also, senators mark warner and bob corker, a republican from tennessee. this is one hour. >> good morning. i'm the head of bloomberg government. thank you for joining us today, and thank you to deloitte for partnering with us in this event. when we launched bloomberg government just about two years ago, we had the aspiration of creating a one-stop shop, with data, tools, news, and analysis to help government affairs and government sales professionals make better and faster decisions. we went a long way toward achieving that aspiration. a big part of it is conversations on the important issues that face our nation today, particularly at the intersection of business and government. today's discussion on the fiscal cliff clearly meets that. we are honored to have such a thoughtful panel. senator mark warner, senator bob corker, congressman chris van hollen, governor tim pawlenty, who is currently president and ceo of the financial services roundtable. moderating our discussion today is al hunt. we always love having al over here. he really pu
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at bloomberg and talked about the republican offer from speaker boehner on the fiscal cliff resolution. he said it was out of balance because the speaker has not agreed to rate increases but the president identified a two-step process by which he is hoping still to reach an agreement before the end of the year, if he can get republicans to give on the top rate. he said that first of all, we can't do a fundamental tax reform in the next two weeks. we simply have to have a down payment before the end of the year and then commit to tax and entitlement reform during the year of 2013. he also specified, and i think this is significant, that he thought 300 to $400 billion over ten years is about what you could raise by closing loopholes and trimming deductions. this is a -- this is a way to come to grips with how to get to the revenue target the president wants. let's first of all listen to -- we have got a piece of sound from that interview. let's listen to the president. >> when you look at how much revenue you can actually raise by closing loopholes and deductions, it's probably in the range of $3
. that's a different movie. [laughter] >> senator, the fiscal cliff, abc wrote about the republican doomsday scenario, and that was that you vote for the senate bill, extending the bush tax cuts for 98% of the people and say to the president that's it, no more, come back on the debt ceiling. the "new york times" wrote about that as a fallback position. could you support that? >> well, first of all, i don't want to feed into the doomsday stuff. i'm confident there are enough people, the majority of people in the town that understand what we are playing with here, playing chicken with is the most important country in the world, and, you know, with are on the verge of doing significant, and, perhaps, lasting damage to the enormous and extraordinary country we inherited. nobody wants that to be a part of the public service legacy. that being said, before we talk about fiscal cliffs, remember, we are here because of the last fiscal cliff. since we had another fiscal cliff type scenario with the debt limit that credited the scenario that led to this, and this idea i voted against that, pu
it to pound these republicans into coming on a sensible deal on the fiscal cliff? got the power. use it or lose it. >> this is the full court press, "the bill press show," live on your radio, and on current tv. [ music ] that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. we've got to get done in this current tv.smocks [ music ] [ music ] >> this is "the bill press show" >> bill: here we go 26 minutes after the hour on a friday, friday, november 30th. my latest column is about this susan rice nonsense. heading my column is: what did susan rice know? and when did she know it? check out the column at we are talking about president obama won this election overwhelmingly when everybody said he didn't have a chance getting re-elected. of course, first we start out with joe biden at costco yesterday, peter. >> he want to costco. we are tweeting at bpshow. one person says romney was at the white
in where we are and whoooose happened over the last couple of weeks. going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i am here seriously trying to resolve it and i would hope that the white house would get serious as well. a congressional republican aide said the only changes in the entitlement come from the president's budget that was voted down by the u.s. senate 99-zero and zoro democrats supported it. the white house said it is the republicans and their refusal to ask higher income americans to pay higher rates. >> asking for a price to be paid for congress to do its job and insure that the united states of america does pay the bills is deeply irresponsible. it was deeply irresponsible in the summer of 2011 and deeply irresponsible if we were to see that kind of approach taken again. >> something new in the proposal. they want to continue to raise the debt limit on their own unless two-thirds of lawmakers say no. >> gretchen: do you remember on this program yesterday where we said this is not a deal. what is proposed is not a deal. a definition of deal, both sides give something, r
of the fiscal cliff talks. yesterday, the president suggested the tax changes now can be done and spending changes next year and the republicans say, not so were. second, a phone call teen the -- between the president and speaker boehner and carney said the president laid out any deal has to have an increase in tax rates but he would not be specific suggesting there is flexibility. the top rate does nut have to be 39.6 back from clinton, but something to get a deal jump started. mitt romney was here for lunch the first meeting since after the election and it was awkward and the menu included turkey chili and a white house readout said they promised to "keep in touch" if the opportunity arises where their interests intersect, maybe another way of saying not so much. >>neil: turkey chili. >>guest: healthy. >>neil: it is. and you are healthy. they are not close to a deal? they aren't close to a deal? what is the deal? we don't know. when we get a deal, and they will, it will be because of something we don't see, not something we did see. ask any sports agent, many negotiations have turned on
: the president sees the fiscal cliff showdown as an opportunity to break that linkage for good. republicans say they will not increase the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in february without more deficit reduction. >> history shows the only major deficit cutting deals we ever do around here, ever, comes after debates over the debt ceiling. it may be a good idea if you don't care about the debt, but it's a non-starter for those of us who do. >> reporter: public opinion generally is on the president's side, but republicans in the house are not paralyzed or perilous, more unified behind speaker boehner than a year ago. why is this important? the white house is beginning to notice and now believe there is a deal boehner can find the stroets pass it. >> an idea what's really at stake. rebecca jarvis has a look how the government spends money and how it could spend less. rebec rebecca, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. >> the question comes up in terms of the money that we're talking about in raising the rate. how much is it that the republicans are objecting to? >> if you look
he convince the white house to back the republican solution to the fiscal cliff? one more look at futures on a tuesday morning as melissa said. not a lot of data today. just wait until the next three days. it all starts with adp, jobs coming up later this week. more "squawk on the street" back in a minute. bob, these projections... they're... optimistic. productivity up, costs down, time to market reduced... those are good things. upstairs, they will see fantasy. not fantasy... logistics. ups came in, analyzed our supply chain, inventory systems... ups? ups. not fantasy? who would have thought? i did. we did, bob. we did. got it. >>> shares of toll brothers are rising beating estimates helped by a jump in signed contracts and a drop in cancellation rates. every metric in this report came out gangbusters and the ceo cited this upswing in momentum that began in the first quarter of this year. they say next signed contracts increased quarter by quarter. 45%, 51%, 66% and 75%. now that's a case for momentum sustained here. >> the question is auto. obviously tremendous demand. home
one didn't come down and hit me over the head and knock me out. apple. if we're going off the fiscal cliff, we know capital gains tax rates are going higher, right? right? that's obvious. do you think the republicans have the power to keep those capital gains rates down? apple's become a referendum on the president's power. right now he has the upper hand, then he can really roll them and intends to do so. it's reasonable to take some profits so you can pay the tax man more now rather than later. it's a wimpy thing, it's logical, makes perfect economic sense. so the stock gets hammered. it makes sense to sell it. but let's be less emotional and even clinical about this one. first, divide apple's share price by ten, now you have a stock that got crushed down to $54. when you do that, it isn't all that scary, is it? where does the pessimism fit in? when we have to endure the pin the tail on the selloff game, what excuses for the selloff myriad alibis i hear from today's action. apple's losing share to google, it doesn't have the right phones in europe, nokia's making a comeback, the mi
that people don't even know what the fiscal cliff is. it shrinks rather than expands it. you don't spend. anti-keynesian has become the same politician involved in marriage and-- >> eliot: i distinguish between the two, the theological strand of the party is more of the social, same-sex marriage. >> i don't think there is as much distinction as you think there is. >> eliot: the second category, the tea part i began as economic empowerment. you're right. folks who say get government out of medicare, there is no logic to what they're saying. do youdo you buy it, but boehner is trying to harness and hold together that is fraught with inconsistencies. >> well, first of all i agree with sam. i think-- >> eliot: am i outvoted? i'm not sure that i like this. >> it's a distinction without a difference in the first two groups, and i don't think there is a third group left not with any power. do i think boehner is trying to rein in his caucus by sending a couple of rookie pitchers down to aa? if john boehner wanted control of his caucus he could discipline paul ryan whose crazy economic inside are ideas
businesses as negotiations or lack thereof over the fiscal cliff continue. >> did you see that the nbc white house team is reporting the belief that perhaps the republicans don't have the fight in them anymore to really dig in now on the concessions on the way which is good news if you don't want to go over the fiscal cliff but they are dispelling the real argument for later on. >> fuel line inspections being ordered for boeing 787 dreamliner. phil lebeau has more on this story. >> a rough day yesterday if you are tracking what's happening with the dreamliner. one of two important stories that broke yesterday. the first one involving a dreamliner that had to make an emergency landing. it was flying from houston to newark, new jersey. it had to turn and it had to make an emergency landing in new orleans and united crew reporting mechanical problem. they delivered the dreamliner two weeks ago. boeing technical team is right now in new orleans investigating the problem along with united teams. they'll have an update later today hopefully. boeing coming out and saying that it expects faa to mand
to raise revenues and cut spending. during a fla tla debate on the fiscal cliff today, the house will not adjourn for the holidays until they have reach add deal. >>> on wall street today it was a mixed day on the market. the dow jump td almost 83 points t. nasdaq fell about 23 points and the s & p 500 was up a little more than two points. >>> anger over action by egypt's new president turned into another violent protest today outside the presidential pals a. there are reports some demonstrators broke through barbed wire and hurled chairs and rocks at police and that people in support of the president beat some protesters with clubs. president morsey angered many people with the decree last month that gave him more power. secretary of state hilary clinton said today the unrest shows an urgent need for dialogue on both sides. >>> the u.s. state department confirmed today it is looking into reports that syrian president may be seeking asylum in another country. reportedly president is look to latin america for asylum for his family and members of his inner circle. the priority righ
are higher, as well. in your morning headlines today, the fiscal cliff dominating the sunday talk show circuit. treasury secretary tim geithner expressing on meet the press that republicans will accept the president's plan to raise income taxes. >> what we're trying to do is make it more likely we come together on a good agreement for the american people that extends tax cuts for the middle class. we're going to start long-term deficits down, tough savings is part of that and investment, things that matter to the american economy. like frut, things to help americans to get back to work. we have a good chance to it now and it's very important we're going to do that. >> secretary geithner said that if republican leaders have alternatives on reducing the deficit, they need the offer their propose yaels to the government. >>> manufacturing activity in china has hit a new high. hsbc's manufacturing purchasing index came in at 55 in november. it separates expansion from contraction. and the latest twilight film was number one at the weekend box office for the thrt straid straight weekend. it
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